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Sunday
Jul202008

in need of practice

Photographing kids is simply a matter of rapidfire optimism. I’m fine with kids, not self-conscious as a photographer because they’re not self-conscious of themselves. I don’t have to tell kids what to do with their hands.
 
But when it comes to adults—here I am, and you may take my picture, and please don’t make me regret it, and where do you want me to stand?—I’d rather shoot incognito from behind a bush. Pervy, I know. But otherwise, I clam up.

The gorgeously ripening Bon asked me to take maternity portraits of her at nearly 29 weeks (given her moody diva of a cervix, this is a fabulous accomplishment achieved thanks to many months of strict bedrest) and when she did, I balked a little.

Inside I was thinking GOD yes! I’d LOVE to! Every time I’m with you my trigger finger’s twitching for want of my camera, but I’m too shy to ask.

When the day came I knew what I wanted—more her than the belly, notsomuch the typical, something un-contrived and non-cutesy—but was amazed at how much it felt like juggling.

I’ve got to go all-manual instead of aperture priority because I need to trick the camera into over and underexposing because that’s what I want, but how do you do that again? I need to hold down the +/- button and click the clicker at the same time, then hang on, now that’s going to be too much, let me check… <click>

 

She says Oh, have we started? I think I blinked  and I stammer sorry, just checking my settings, you can sit for a bit… and then it occurs to me: adults need guidance, reassurance, chit-chat. When you look through your lens and think to yourself that’s perfect!  you need to say it, tell her how lovely she looks by the windowlight.

All that and I hadn't yet considered composition. So busy thinking of rapport and focus and exposure, I cut off her arm for fifty frames in a row—visually speaking—and the angle of it draws energy straight off the edge. Her face, expression? The light? Dreamy. But the damn arm, the arm! GAH! How could I have not seen that? Even drastic cropping can’t seem to reinvent this creative stumble.

Fascinating, though, and I want to do more, much more.

Sisters, I need your help. What are your principles for taking great portraits—intentional ones, not candid—of adults? How do you keep all the balls in the air?

 

Reader Comments (37)

How do you keep all the balls in the air?
It's called divine inspiration___
in the background.
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjfrancis
I talk to them a little but mostly I get them to do the talking. Ask them to tell me a story maybe. I've also had success with misdirection. If there are kids or animals around the subject can look at them or even interact with them while I do my thing. It's sort of like giving myself a virtual bush to hide behind. I've also been known to bring an extra adult to do the talking with the subject adult so I can just take pictures.
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKizz
I don't do many portraits, but when I'm taking pictures of my friends/adult family members, it always goes better if I can stick more than one of them in the frame. This works especially well with teenagers! Adults and teens get self-conscious when alone, but stick them next to their best friends and they're all smiley, relaxed and happy. Then, sometimes, you can secretly zoom in on just one! Let me also say that I am the worst when it comes to having my picture taken -- I'd much rather be behind the lens!
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAmy
Kate, this is why I've decided I could never be a wedding photographer (at least one where they expect posed formal shots). I did one portrait shoot this year just to see what it felt like, and although I liked the shots, it was pretty stressful. Honestly, my favorite portrait shots are when the subject isn't looking in the camera or when it's taken candidly. And I'm really bad at small talk, so I have no idea how to put someone at ease.

I'm looking forward to other Sisters' suggestions as I can use a lot of help myself.
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterSarah-Ji
I love this post, it's something I've never thought of before. I might be taking pics of my SIL's family sometime soon and am fine wtih the camera aspect but nervous about the... conversation aspect. I mean, it's family you'd think it'd be easy, right? But I don't think it will be.
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLeah
I'm so with you sister! I felt so awkward doing my last family shoot... and I have another coming up in a month (9 adults and 4 kids!). I'm on the shy side and totally mute when it comes to small talk. Sometimes I think we have to do a little acting, just to lighten up the mood. Before I became a teacher, I had the hardest time speaking to strangers. After teaching, I found myself becoming uncharacteristically outgoing. Strange. Now, with a baby, I can talk it up with strangers at the supermarket. Weird.

So perhaps for my next shoot, I should go into teacher mode and do a little acting. Oh, the things I say are genuine, no doubt, but my delivery... a bit improvised.

I'm looking forward to reading more tips about this. How do you keep the client at ease while trying your best to take the best portraits possible??
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterlaura - dolcepics
I bet you'll feel a lot more comfortable the next time you give it a go!

Capturing the essence of the moment, as well as the person you are shooting is no easy task. I would say that you have a wonderful idea of how that is accomplished.
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterWayfaring Wanderer
yeah, i'm with you behind the bush too. great post, i'm gonna read all the comments for helpful suggestions! i love photographing kids cause they eventually forget that you are there and they let themselves shine through. adults are so very self conscious there is no way in hell that they'll forget about the camera. i always get very nervous before photographing adults. (to the point of possible cancellation 'why do they want my crummy pictures anyway, i'm just a fake photographer, god these are gonna suck!')

so for this reason i've only done "photoshoots' for friends and family and friends of friends where i can practice my direction and finding my voice, oh and i'm a wee bit shy have i mentioned, so i do all this in practice to actually self promote myself hopefully in the future as a {cough} career. i was just joking at my last shoot (three adults two babies and one three year old) how i feel as if i go mute behind the camera. and when i speak i remind myself of a glamour shots attendant (move your shoulders towards me, maybe your hands behind your back? how about legs crossed at the ankle? oh that's good...) but i was reassured by all three adults that they liked this approach. they want to know what looks good. they want to look good! they want to know what to do with their hands just like i do when i am being photographed.

pregnancy shots really made me voice myself more with just a little direction like hand placement and trying to be fast and try lots of different angles. (ie: fill two memory cards in two hours) but still after a photoshoot i am exhausted and feel like a split personality, a bit manic overanalyzing every minute detail: sun, eye contact, hands, necklace, bra strap? hair, smile... AH! oh yeah, this is supposed to be fun. but then once i get home and put all the photos up on my laptop i remember that is was fun, duh, and i can be behind my bush while choosing the favorites to pass on to them.

your photos are beautiful, as is your subject. and your post is reality, and good to hear that others feel this way too. maybe it gets better with time? i can only hope.
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commentercamerashymomma
I recently did a maternity shoot which happened to be my first paid shoot EVER. I was very nervous at first, but I did my best to break the ice with her, her family and the kids especially! We had to bribe the youngest with jelly beans!

When it got to be just me and her, I made sure to mention how lovely she looked and reassured her that she was doing a great job. She did make things easy though - she was a natural!
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterJen
Great post -- I totally relate. I've only done photo "sessions" for friends and family, but I'm not sure who gets more self-conscious -- me or them. Because I've only photographed folks I know, I usually just try to joke with them to put them at ease (as well as myself). If I get them laughing or being silly with me, I try to snap photos of those moments, since they are definitely the moments when their guard is down.
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commentergiggletwig (corey)
Beautiful pics! And am I the only one thinking how hot Bon is? ;)
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKate C.
Thanks everyone, this is SO great. The prompting the subjects to tell stories? I feel like when I do that, I end up with all kinds of shots where people's faces are contorted into MWA.. and PUHH.. <making funny faces as I type> and eyes closed and gesticulations and such. Figuring out when to click the shutter in front of someone talking? That is tough.

And Kate C, totally no! I mean, yes.. agreed! <looks over shoulder, whispers> I took shots of her prego bazongas. Kidding. Sort of. :)
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commentersweetsalty kate
WOW. It's so great to know I'm not the only one who would like to hide behind a bush. As much as I LOVE photography I hate it when everyone's looking at the girl with the camera! YUCK. I'm 6'2" so I'm not easy to hide and if anyone ever came up to me and asked a serious photography question I might just keel over and die. "I'm still learning"

Yep, give me some vanishing cream. I actually do better one on one than if I'm taking photos where there are people watching. Agh! I'm scaring myself.

Gotta run and hide
julie
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjulie
This has been the most wonderful post and series of comments. I'll be honest -- I come here every day and see the gorgeous pictures you all post (here and on Flickr) and they all look so EFFORTLESS! I mean, camerashymomma's and laura(dolcepics)'s shots for instance. Simply stunning. Nary a bad one in the bunch. And that's not even going into the usual post shots and daily clicks!

I feel like I have to work for it. Think about it. And yes, the more I practice and do and read and am inspired, the easier and more natural it gets. But really, with people (I've done a few engagement shoots), I'm a wreck before and during. After, I've taken so many shots I'm almost overwhelmed. And hamstrung when choosing the shots to edit and share.

So thank you - for sharing how hard it is and how it's not just me that is nervous and "overthinky" about all this!!
July 21, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdr lyn
I have nothing to add here except, yes, I thought Bon was AMAZINGLY fresh-faced for a mother on bedrest--and gorgeous too! Ridiculous!!
And "prego bazongas"? Yow-za!!
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered Commentermnkathy
Um.. if it is between friends a glass of wine helps. Anything to relax the subject. Praise and telling them to remember to breathe - that breath often relaxes them into a more natural state of the pose, less held/stiff.

This is a great topic and I'm looking forward to reading everyone's advice. I'm new to portrait photography, but I've done a couple 'formal' weddings (and one informal one) and absolutely love it. Everyone is happy, dressed to the nines and will happily try any ridiculous pose you throw at them, as long as you look like you're having fun too. I think even as the photographer we need to remember to relax and breathe. Take some time, check details. Write a list and memorize it then check your photos often (if digital), something like: horizons, limbs, exposure, intended depth of field, focus point, and whatever else you feel helps a photo look sharp and well thought out.
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterdaisy
mmmm...gorgeous portraits, Kate.

well, someone very wise (andrea) once told me to try putting it on "P" and automatic focus for the first few portrait sessions so that i can put my energy towards the person and the compositions rather than the techie stuff. so i did that for a while and i grew to understand how i work with people behind a lens. then, slowly but surely...i played with the techie stuff.
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterboho girl
ps. i also forgot to mention that for me, a lot of physical contact helps open my client up. i get close to my subject and move their limbs, their hair, their chin, etc...all the while whispering to them what i feel is beautiful and unique about them. this intimacy creates comfort and a safeness between us and i notice a shift in their self esteem and sexy. ; )
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterboho girl
Doing a photo-shoot and being paid to do so..is the hardest thing of all. My fear is always that I'll mess it up..and never have the opportunity to do it again.

What I've learned is not to wait for the perfect moment..the perfect pose..the perfect expression. Shoot it all. Usually the best images are the unexpected ones. The ones where the subject is caught unexpected and in between poses.

Great portraits here. Well done.
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMarcie
I was so happy to read this post and all the comments and know I'm not the only one! I've only had one paid shoot and I was so nervous, I ended up offering a reshoot because even though they liked the photos, I knew they weren't my best. When the reshoot was over, I had over 200 photos and felt like I had been up for 2 days straight! LOL! Each time someone talks to me about an opportunity, I almost feel sick ... how can that be possible doing something I love so much and have such an addiction for??? I'll be checking back to read everyone's advice. Beautiful portraits by the way ... love the light!
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterTraci
I was going to comment when I first read this post, but since I'm having the same problems, I figured I'd wait to hear what great advice everyone else had-since I have none.
Well... I have my first maternity shoot (she doesn't know it's my first) and I think that that is key number 1. Fake the confidence to the end. She'll be 38 weeks when we do this shoot so I just continue to tell her that she's so adorable, and letting her know that I understand any discomforts-but that in the end, I want to get pictures of her glowing and beautiful. I've told her that we will take our time, have fun, and come away with great images. She's so excited-I hope I deliver... But really, I've been overly careful of telling her that my most important issue is for her to be comfortable. I think it's working so far-but uh. we've yet to take the pictures.
So I was fine, after I went through some old family portraits I had taken though, my confidence was shaken-over analysing these pictures that the families LOVED- I just feel terrible for having them pay.
So lesson two, don't focus on the old, grow, learn, and figure out what to do better next time.
...and then-I got a phone call from a man asking about family portraits. Sure! I tell him, No problem! ...the family is 18+ people. I seriously have no idea what to do. I'm doing it at a rip off price because I've never done a large group before. I'm terrified-but I think that my lesson number three has got to be that MOST people don't know a good picture if it hit them in the face. Any picture of their family together, smiling face, generic blah is great to them-it's when you pull out all the stops and give them a creative, intimate picture of their family that they go 'oh...oh..'

Recap- fake confidence, pretend you know what you are doing. (once I lose confidence, the family loses confidence in the way they look, in how the pictures will turn out, and in the time we are spending together)
learn from your past mistakes, and don't be too hard on yourself about them.
Know that most people don't know a good picture if it bit them in the face. They are paying YOU to be the creative one, they don't see things the same way we do-they won't notice that you wanted more light here, or that this persons arm is funny. They see the full picture, while you see all the details that are wrong.

Now, wish me luck on my first maternity, and first large family portrait!!
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered Commentere.darcy
I think it takes time. I started doing portraits for friends and family a few months back and was recently asked to take portraits for our company's new website. The employees - most of of them good friends of mine - froze in front of the camera and I realized it took a great deal of reassurance and coaxing to get them to relax while posing.

The most important thing is to feel confident and appear confident even in moments when you realize - oh crap, I've cut off her arm in 50 frames. Assure them that they're doing great and you've got some wonderful shots....so they don't feel like you are disastisfied.

I also shoot completely manual (have almost since the beginning and never looked backed) but I typically try to pick an aperture and exposure that works with the light and the first pose and then shoot in that for 50 frames or so, adjusting maybe the shutter speed a bit.

It's trial and error - I don't think there are hard fastened rules. I've been working as an asst. to a wedding photographer this summer and she floats through shoots, it's completely awe-inspiring. And whenever I ask her how she seems to be so flawless, she says - I've been doing this forever. So the lesson seems to be - practice, practice, practice.

Lovely shots of Bon :)
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAshley
In my first photoshoot with adults we were shooting in a arboretum and then went out in the snow. I left my ISO at 1600. I think it's normal to not nail it on your first photoshoot, so really don't get down on yourself. I'm definitely still working on that rapport, too. I just would rather be the fly on the wall shooting moments than anything posed.
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterstacy
Great comments! And here I thought I was the only one who got nervous behind the lens! It's good to know I'm not alone...

After getting into photography, I spent 6 months as a professional photographer for Lifetouch, but quickly realized that it was too much "work" and stopped being the fun hobby I once had. I dreaded going to work each day and all the technical stuff became routine. I'd tell people how to sit, how to place their hands, etc. I stopped getting creative behind the lens and my photos didn't look natural but posed too much.

Photography is definitely one of my biggest passions, but I can't be forced into a set of rules. I have to feel inspired and when I am, my photos turn out the best. As far as portraiture, I still get nervous, even when I am shooting family. It feels like I'm under pressure to always do my best because these people know what I'm capable of doing. But if I can relax and joke around (I'm a pretty sarcastic person), then I just let myself loose. When I've done engagement or other photos of friends, I also find it helpful to have another person come along with me to be another set of eyes and to just spark more conversation. They sometimes point out minor details I've missed as I'm trying to adjust settings on my camera. I still have a problem with speed...making the right settings so I get a good shot but also keeping it flowing so that my subjects don't get bored. I'll miss a good shot every now and then b/c of this. Anyone have advice on that???
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterAmy
Wow. it's like your speaking directly to me! I love to photograph kids because I can just let them do their own thing and capture the moment. Adults need direction...and I need to provide it. Eeek!

I look forward to following this conversation.
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterChristina
This post and it's comments make me feel so much different than i usually do when i visit this site.
I always find myself feeling so small and insignificant reading about what's "in" for equipment and getting lost in the photo jargon I am so unfamiliar with.

I shoot with a dinky D80 and an 18/135 (which I love and will not buy better than anytime soon). I don't use boxes or flash extensions or any of that fancy stuff. Though I have a simple studio set up that I bought in the beginning, I have no training and am lucky if I can take a good pic in the sunlight much less fan dangle all that set lighting.

I do freelance wedding, family, senior, and children's photography going on three years...and I rock at it. =)

The more nervous I am before a shoot, the better the photos turn out...???
and I'm always amazed by the interactions, the joy of working with people and the different results that come, personalized to each group, via their style and dynamic.

I never feel like I've provided a service when I photograph someone, but more as though I was offered the experience to live through their hearts, souls, and relationships from a special and unusual angle. In my own art language I take and use that opportunity to capture the reflections of what I find.

I LOVE photography.

I agree with the first comment.
God is certainly involved for me.

I guess there is a plus to being self taught, and that is that I don't ever have to think. I just feel and move where the shot takes me.

I would suggest practicing without so much thought. Let your heart move your fingers around your camera. Feel your subjects. Take them in. And when you get quiet and involved connecting to their eyes, hearts, hands...they'll find a peace and calm in your work that will be appreciated and shine through in their portraits.

Thank you for sharing this. It makes me feel like at least i have SOME edge, even if I missing all the rest of the fabulous things you ladies have to offer. =)

God Bless.
Lora
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterlora
I've found one of the best way to get myself and others to relax is the first great shot you get--SHOW IT TO THEM! In the first 5-10 minutes I make sure to show them a shot in the back of my camera. That way they know how great they look and you get that boost with their new confidence! It has worked everytime! I love all these other posts too!
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterHarmony
lotsa comments to read through, not sure if someone has already mentioned. When I shoot intentional portraits, I use a tripod and a shutter switch with a cable. Then I do not let them know I am shooting (its harder to tell when you are not eye to the camera) and keep them talking.
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGizella
Bon looks so beautiful here. She really is radiant and full of light. And I'm so glad you asked this question b/c I have the same issues!
July 22, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterLawyer Mama
Kate, I love how relaxed and comfortable Bon is in these shots. You really can see the light inside her.
July 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterMAKNJ
Be yourself, and they will be themselves! Don't OVERTHINK!
July 23, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterstar8278
I don't know about principles for taking great portraits or keeping the photography balls in the air...most of my subjects are my children's hands ("Not another picture, MOM!") and our pets (a dog and 2 cats). The pets especially...they are the most willing and most available subjects. I wish I had more opportunity to take pictures of actual people. But...just seeing the maternity photos of Bon, makes me wish SO much that I had taken pictures of my belly when I was pregnant with my two kids. I think I have ONE (maybe 2) from each pregnancy.
July 23, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterO
I'm not a professional, but personally I don't believe there is any such thing as a bad photograph. If you heart and soul go into it, it must be great. Honestly, this world will live in over-analyzes EVERYTHING too much. Live it. Love it. Personally, my favorite is the top right. What a great playful smile. You are great behind the camera...don't question your abilities...just go with it.
July 24, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterGayle
This is my first visit here, and I was grinning from ear to ear after reading this post. I'm not the only one! Wahoo! I think maybe everyone struggles with the interactive aspect of it, perhaps a sense of shyness is what draws us all to be behind the lens in the first place - a buffered way to interact with the world aroun us. I find that if I try and chat with those whom I'm photographing, I have a very difficult time concentraing on the details. "So I need to do x. How do I do that again? Oh right,that with this right here, hold that, move this." It's hard to have that conversation in your mind while conversing audibly as well. If I ever "cut off" limbs, and it's a really great picture otherwise, I try to at least crop the pic so that the limb is transected in a reasonable place. At the end of the day, we are all our own worst critics. I've done two weddings, have two more scheduled, and I have a "freelance" agreement with a local event company. I still can't believe people pay me to do this. I feel like I don't know what I'm doing half the time, I'm still learning. I'm a mechanical engineer, who do I think I am to be paid for taking photographs? And I think a lot of the pictures on here are much better than my work. But I think we all feel that way - we're all nervous. We put a piece of ourselves into our work, it's a very vulnerable sensation - like standing naked in front of somebody and waiting for the reaction.
The first wedding I shot (I shoot with a partner), a kid grabbed my lens right as the ceremony began and smudged it horribly. I only had time to quickly grab another lens and throw it on the camera. So I was working with a less than ideal lens that I hadn't been prepared to use. Nerves around that had me shooting in autosettings at the beginning, then I switched back to manual. While I did make some mistakes, like I TOTALLY missed the first kiss, my manual settings came out much better than did the auto, so that made me feel good. And when I did mess up, my partner was there to back me up. He got some great ones of the first kiss that I missed. He messed up on the cutting of the cake, and that time I got some great ones. It's good to have back up!
The second wedding we shot, we went in early to set up, do prep work, and when the wedding starts, literally the moment the bride walks out... they turn the lights off!!! A fact which nobody bothered to mention to the photographers. We just looked at eachother, eyes wide, and then went to work. We managed to pull it off okay, but certainly nothing compared to what we COULD have done had we been given the opportunity to be completely prepared for those conditions. So sometimes things are out of your control, as well. I think learning to recover and roll with the punches is one of the most crucial skills to develope.
It's been so great to read everyone's shared experiences. It is an incredible relief to know that I'm not the only one that has these feelings. :)
July 24, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterKellee
I just stumbled onto your site and am loving it. I am a professional, make a living, can't believe people actually pay me to do what I love, photographer. I have found that being confident helps a lot and making jokes. I love the interaction with adults. I always talk to them about the baby on the way, while I am changing positions and backdrops. Having a kid myself, I find it easy to talk about names, room colors, hospitals, etc. I always say something along the lines of "perfect" or "this is awesome." So they feel confident as well. I think for a first run, your portraits are great. Good luck with coming out from behind the bushes.
July 25, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterjenny
I have nothing to add, but I've been meaning to tell you how lovely those photos are. I wish I would have known you when I was preggers. :)
July 31, 2008 | Unregistered Commenterthordora
Coincidentally, I just read an entry on Me Ra Koh's photography blog on how to coach a family photo session.
http://www.merakohblog.com/2008/10/22/photography-qa-segment-1-how-to-photo-coach-a-family-session/
It was very helpful.

Myself, I try to do some preliminary talking to my subject to help me try to capture their personality and "style". If someone wants pregnancy pics of herself goofing around with her kid, who am I to try to steer her towards the oh-so-artistic shots another person would be happy with? Y'know?
October 29, 2008 | Unregistered CommenterShawna

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